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Mademoiselle C
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PostSubject: [Finished] Koffing   [Finished] Koffing EmptySun May 25, 2014 4:29 pm


Proposed Sets

Set 1 : Tank
Ability: Levitate
Nature: Bold
Item: Black Sludge
IV spread: 31/x/31/31/31/31
Hidden Power: Not Relevant
Egg Moves:
- Psywave
- Pain Split
- Stockpile
- Toxic Spikes


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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Koffing   [Finished] Koffing EmptySun May 25, 2014 4:59 pm

Obligatory comment as requested: I would go Bold nature personally. Also, since its speed is basically too slow to go 31 and too fast to be 0, a random one is good
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Koffing   [Finished] Koffing EmptySun May 25, 2014 5:57 pm

I would also prefer a bold nature
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Mademoiselle C
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Koffing   [Finished] Koffing EmptySun May 25, 2014 6:30 pm

No, no bold, I use Flamethrower on Weezing and it's awesome.
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Koffing   [Finished] Koffing EmptySun May 25, 2014 6:32 pm

Mademoiselle C wrote:
No, no bold, I use Flamethrower on Weezing and it's awesome.

But bold decreases attack while increasing Defense, while Relaxed increases defense while decreasing speed... neither have an impact on Flamethrower.
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Mademoiselle C
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Koffing   [Finished] Koffing EmptySun May 25, 2014 6:38 pm

Oh right I assumed you meant the nature that increases defense and decreases special attack, my bad. But decreasing attack doesn't really make sense either, since you might want a Curse set. And with a curse set you don't care about speed
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Koffing   [Finished] Koffing EmptySun May 25, 2014 6:41 pm

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Koffing   [Finished] Koffing EmptySun May 25, 2014 6:50 pm

I don't think running a curse set is a good idea. Wheezing doesn't get any good physical attacks (unless you deliberately want to lower his speed for trick room?).

It also gets stockpile, which works better with a bold nature imo.
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Koffing   [Finished] Koffing EmptySun May 25, 2014 6:52 pm

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Mademoiselle C
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Koffing   [Finished] Koffing EmptySun May 25, 2014 7:19 pm

Weezing has a better attack than special attack so I find it sad to lower its attack because I think we should give people the possibility to go mixed if they want to, but if everyone agrees with bold 31/x/31/31/31/31 I'm fine with that since I personally always go special. In that case I need another egg move to replace curse though
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Koffing   [Finished] Koffing EmptySun May 25, 2014 7:38 pm

Psywave would be pretty cool over Curse. Other than that Destiny Bond or Spite seem like good options.

If you want/need one I can get you a ball from HGSS if interested.
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Mademoiselle C
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Koffing   [Finished] Koffing EmptySun May 25, 2014 7:46 pm

Maybe I can make 2 sets: 31/31/31/31/31/x relaxed with Curse and 31/x/31/31/31/31 Bold with psywave. Or the 2nd one could even be modest.
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Koffing   [Finished] Koffing EmptySun May 25, 2014 9:09 pm

Do a defensive set with Bold, and a Modest set. They're less situational than relaxed. And Weezing, as mentioned, has a terrible physical move pool.
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Koffing   [Finished] Koffing EmptyMon May 26, 2014 12:13 am

If I'm not making a Curse set I'm only making one set. Bold and modest would serve pretty much the same purpose (personally I would put more sp.atk evs on a bold weezing and more defensive evs on a modest weezing so both would be exactly the same) and Weezing isn't used a lot so it's useless to make both. I'll make it bold amd replace curse with psywave
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Koffing   [Finished] Koffing EmptyMon May 26, 2014 1:54 pm

Bold is better for defensive, but modest works better with choice specs, which is very viable.
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Koffing   [Finished] Koffing EmptyTue May 27, 2014 10:30 am

So, am I really making 2 sets for Koffing? Bold and Modest? Or just one Bold?
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Koffing   [Finished] Koffing EmptyTue May 27, 2014 10:37 am

Well I mean I either go full defense or full offense. Mixing roles just makes you lose to more stuff. I've seen a lot of people use choice specs Weezing, and it's pretty good. Whether or not everyone feels that this warrants another set is another matter. I and probably everyone else have a defensive Weezing, and probably don't have a modest one. So for selfish reasons, I'd love to see specs Weezing here, it's just good enough to catch people off guard.
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Koffing   [Finished] Koffing EmptyTue May 27, 2014 10:44 am

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Mademoiselle C
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Koffing   [Finished] Koffing EmptyTue May 27, 2014 10:45 am

K I'll just make both...
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Koffing   [Finished] Koffing EmptyTue May 27, 2014 10:52 am

That's a shame Zoid, Umbreon/Weezing core is very, very good.
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Koffing   [Finished] Koffing EmptyTue May 27, 2014 11:10 am

Hey Madem, I'm currently in HGSS balling a few pokes. If you want I can get a HGSS ball for you to breed Koffing in?
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Koffing   [Finished] Koffing EmptyTue May 27, 2014 11:12 am

Ballin' and shot callin'.
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Mademoiselle C
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Koffing   [Finished] Koffing EmptyTue May 27, 2014 11:14 am

Ok if you want. But only if you manage to get a balled koffing with at least 4 IVs XD
I don't care about balls so I'm not going to bother if it makes it harder to get perfect ivs Razz
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Koffing   [Finished] Koffing EmptyTue May 27, 2014 11:16 am

"I don't care about balls"

-Mademoiselle C, May 27th, 10:14 a.m.central US time.
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Koffing   [Finished] Koffing EmptyTue May 27, 2014 11:17 am

Mademoiselle C wrote:
Ok if you want. But only if you manage to get a balled koffing with at least 4 IVs XD
I don't care about balls so I'm not going to bother if it makes it harder to get perfect ivs Razz

Well of course not in HGSS but if it means that you'll put the ball in there if I do then I can just breed it with my Ditto till I get a 4IV if you want. Not guaranteeing the nature though just the ball and IVs.

Let me know which one you like the best from HGSS.
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Koffing   [Finished] Koffing EmptyTue May 27, 2014 11:18 am

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Koffing   [Finished] Koffing EmptyTue May 27, 2014 11:20 am

Idk... friend ball?
And if you get a 3IV it'll be fine. I'm just that nice. Razz
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Koffing   [Finished] Koffing EmptyTue May 27, 2014 11:23 am

Mademoiselle C wrote:
Idk... friend ball?
And if you get a 3IV it'll be fine. I'm just that nice. Razz

Friend Ball? Seems like an odd choice.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Koffing   [Finished] Koffing EmptyTue May 27, 2014 11:28 am

Go heavy ball go!
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Koffing   [Finished] Koffing EmptyTue May 27, 2014 11:29 am

idk either dusk, friend, heavy or luxury, i'll let you choose.

Like Bunsel pointed out:

Bunselpower wrote:
"I don't care about balls"

-Mademoiselle C, May 27th, 10:14 a.m.central US time.
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Koffing   [Finished] Koffing EmptyThu May 29, 2014 11:46 am

Let me know when you need the Pokeballs. If not enough time to trade put something on GTS like a Fletchling Lv 3 on the GTS and ask for a female Lv 1-10 Koffing and put my username as the message and let me know when you sent it.
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Koffing   [Finished] Koffing EmptyThu May 29, 2014 1:18 pm

Ok, I'll do that tonight
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Koffing   [Finished] Koffing EmptySat May 31, 2014 1:37 pm

Blue, I am depositing a level 2 male Bunnelby on the GTS right now to trade for the Koffing. The message is "Jump lil' bunny"
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Koffing   [Finished] Koffing EmptySat May 31, 2014 4:56 pm

Sent over Koffing.
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Koffing   [Finished] Koffing EmptySat May 31, 2014 7:13 pm

BlueDryBones1 wrote:
Sent over Koffing.

Just curious, what pokeball will it be in? Did heavy ball win?
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Koffing   [Finished] Koffing EmptySat May 31, 2014 7:55 pm

Yes.

Also please stop editing all your posts to "---"...
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Koffing   [Finished] Koffing EmptySat May 31, 2014 7:56 pm

Mademoiselle C wrote:
Yes.

Also please stop editing all your posts to "---"...

It was in fear O.O I don't know what your talking about Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Koffing   [Finished] Koffing EmptyTue Jun 10, 2014 7:52 am

I finished this set, I'll make the modest version whenever I get half an hour free...
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Koffing   [Finished] Koffing EmptyThu Jun 12, 2014 9:43 am

I finished this yesterday.
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